G Skill Sniper vs Ripjaws DDR3?

[hogan773]

Any difference between these other than a different heat spreader design?

Looks like timing, voltage, speed, etc are all listed as the same. The Sniper says its "designed for 1156 and AMD" while the Ripjaws is also listed as compatible with a zillion mobos including those.

Does anyone know if the spreaders on the Sniper are lower profile than Ripjaws? Looks like they are flat across the top but there is no measurement in terms of height listed anywhere.

 

[ghost_florian]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416&cm_re=g_skill_sniper-_-20-231-416-_-Product

They are compatible with basically everything out there.
The spreaders are (almost) as tall as the memory modules themselves, so no height problem here. They will work on any system with any cooler.

 

[jaquith]

I looked at (2) sets, my initial reaction 'feeling' is that they're the same IC's, but the chipset differences concerned me that perhaps they are NOT 100% the same IC's. But few people get LGA 775 RAM so it could be a simple omission by G.SKILL. I would prefer the Ripjaws primarily because the 'ridge' can cool the RAM better, on anything less than a 4X_GB high density and 1600 MHz+ speed it won't matter too much.

G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333 F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR 9-9-9-24-2N @ 1.5v http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417
G.SKILL -> http://gskill.com/products.php?index=337

Chipsets:
Intel P55
Intel H55
AMD 890 Series
AMD 790 Series

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333 F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL 9-9-9-24-2N @ 1.5v http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
G.SKILL -> http://gskill.com/products.php?index=233

Chipsets:
Intel P55
Intel H55
Intel P45
Intel P35
AMD 890 Series
AMD 790 Series

 

[hogan773]

Yes.....hard to know. Those were the 2 I was comparing.

Only reason I liked the Snipers is just in case I have any issues fitting the Ripjaws underneath a CM Hyper 212+

I have seen other posts that seemed to say that people did successfully fit the RJ underneath....that they're not "too tall"

 

[jaquith]

Yeah, I cannot imagine the CM Hyper 212+ being too short; unlike some Noctua with short pipes. Like I said it 'may' only be a issue if your running 1600 or faster RAM and with full density 4X_GB. 1600 4X4GB do get hot.

 

[hogan773]

I already bought 1600 Ripjaws. I believe my yet-to-be-born SB mobo will only run memory at 1333.

Should I sell or return the 1600 and get 1333 for $20 less, or just keep the 1600 because I will have "better binned" chips and/or in the future I might be able to actually run it at 1600?

 

[jaquith]

No, keep the 1600 they can run 1066~1600 and everything in between easily; under-clocking. Example if your Ripjaws are 1600 are rated with CAS 9-9-9-24-2N then at 1333 the CAS 'might' be 8-8-8-24-2N. Most Sandy Bridge MOBO can run 2000+Mhz RAM.

 

[hogan773]

I looked at (2) sets, my initial reaction 'feeling' is that they're the same IC's, but the chipset differences concerned me that perhaps they are NOT 100% the same IC's. But few people get LGA 775 RAM so it could be a simple omission by G.SKILL. I would prefer the Ripjaws primarily because the 'ridge' can cool the RAM better, on anything less than a 4X_GB high density and 1600 MHz+ speed it won't matter too much.

FYI in case anyone else has this question...here is the answer from the horse's mouth, so to speak....


"Yes, the guts (IC chips) are different, but overall specs are the same. They will perform very similar. The RipJaws has more information/reviews because the Sniper was just released. The lower heatspreader is great for people with large coolers, but most can clear the RJ anyway. Thank youGSKILL TECH***************"

 

[jaquith]

Well there was no G.SKILL omission and the Chipsets spoke!

 

[hogan773]

Well there was no G.SKILL omission and the Chipsets spoke!

Yes now I hope that my Ripjaws will actually be supported on the P67/H67 chipsets!

I see on Gskill website they are coming out with "Ripjaws X" for SandyBridge......

 

[jaquith]

^Then that would be 'good' a question for G.SKILL.

The G.SKILL that I listed above F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL work and are QVL in Gigabyte P67 MOBOs http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-p67a-ud3r.pdf

BTW SB is 1155 (P67) not 1156 (P55).

What P67/SB/1155 MOBO are you looking to get?

 

[axipher]

Yes.....hard to know. Those were the 2 I was comparing.

Only reason I liked the Snipers is just in case I have any issues fitting the Ripjaws underneath a CM Hyper 212+

I have seen other posts that seemed to say that people did successfully fit the RJ underneath....that they're not "too tall"

I had to move my Ripjaws over to the second pair of memory slots on my Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 because i couldn't get the fan on that side of my Cooler Master 212+. Not a big problem though, still runs amazing.

 

[joelmartinez]

Not super related but I was looking at the Gigabyte P67 series for the QVL and under bundled software happened to notice their packaging it with Norton. Most useless software bundle I've ever seen

 

[hogan773]

^Then that would be 'good' a question for G.SKILL.

The G.SKILL that I listed above F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL work and are QVL in Gigabyte P67 MOBOs http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-p67a-ud3r.pdf

BTW SB is 1155 (P67) not 1156 (P55).

What P67/SB/1155 MOBO are you looking to get?

I know re 1155. I actually may get an H67 variant so I dont have to buy a graphics card. I'm not a gamer. As I said in another post, I want to make sure I can actually OC the K-series multiplier on an H67 board, and also make sure that the integrated graphics doesn't "tax" the rest of the processor.

 

[hogan773]

I had to move my Ripjaws over to the second pair of memory slots on my Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 because i couldn't get the fan on that side of my Cooler Master 212+. Not a big problem though, still runs amazing.

I am holding the 212+ in my hand right now. I see that the fan can be moved up or down as much as one wants.....obviously you want the fan to be centered, but I think if it needed to move up a cm or two to fit, it wouldn't kill the cooling power.....

 

[jaquith]

Never get an onboard GPU unless you're 100% certain that you'll NEVER add a dedicated GPU. Otherwise I 100% guarantee: PCIe bandwidth loss >10%, lost physical RAM {H/W Reserved} even if you disable via BIOS. Plus a host of oddball behavior and problems when adding a Dedicated GPU. Also, you'll loose ~0.5GB via shared RAM with the GPU.

Physical RAM is way slower than the dedicated GDDR5 or faster RAM, and yes it does task the CPU. Don't do it, get a cheapo GPU with 1GB.

 

[hogan773]

I can't get a SandyBridge without an onboard GPU......that's the way they come.

 

[jaquith]

Speaking of the SB MOBOs - incorrect http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=p67

 

[hogan773]

Speaking of the SB MOBOs - incorrect http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=p67

Holy Shnikes.....I am confused.

I ran a comparison on all the H67 mobos. Some appear to use graphics (b/c they have HDMI and DVI ports), some don't. I think all the P67 mobos don't, but I haven't run the comparison yet. 1 H67 has Firewire, others dont. All the uATX forms seem to have all the OC features, but the regular ATX that has the video outs doesnt say anything about OCing.

And that's just the Asus selection.....Gigabyte has its whole selection too.

I guess choice is nice, but I got to figure out which one to get by solving a multipart equation it seems.

If what Jaquith says is true for SandyBridge (that being that using onboard video does tax the rest of the system) then it may be easier to buy a cheapo video card and then just pick the best P67 mobo....and not worry about trying to shoehorn in the various options while also getting a DVI-out from the mobo itself.

I guess I'm not buying anything on Jan 5 or 9......need to get some better advice on which of the 20+ mobos to buy!!!!

 

[jaquith]

I would suggest that you wait until the selections are FULLY available, or about 1~2 months AFTER the initial release date. If the goal is gaming then EVGA and for everything else the ASUS would be my everyday choice.

When 'adding it all up' I too would run a comparison to the X58. I am not too sold on the 1155 because it's a baby step forward and at best equal to the X58, whereas the X68 offers NEW Technologies like PCIe 3.0 - doubling the MOBO available bandwidth.

...just my thoughts.

 

[hogan773]

I would suggest that you wait until the selections are FULLY available, or about 1~2 months AFTER the initial release date. If the goal is gaming then EVGA and for everything else the ASUS would be my everyday choice.

When 'adding it all up' I too would run a comparison to the X58. I am not too sold on the 1155 because it's a baby step forward and at best equal to the X58, whereas the X68 offers NEW Technologies like PCIe 3.0 - doubling the MOBO available bandwidth.

...just my thoughts.

Thanks. I think between P67 and H67 it might be simpler to just spend $75 on a Radeon 5670-type card and not worry about utilizing the onboard graphics. It appears there might be too many dead ends or tradeoffs that might make me regret in the future having chosen the H67 path.

I can't wait too long though because then I'll get to the "its only 3 months until socket 2011, and 3 months isn't that long, and shouldn't I wait just to see what socket 2011 offers......." Reality (for me) is I don't want to spend thousands on a new setup. SB 2500 or 2600 will be leaps and bounds above my current Pentium D 820, and I'm not a gamer. I'd rather not spend $1000 on a 2011 mobo and chip when I can spend $300-400 for 1155.

 

[jaquith]

Trust me 'I get' the need it now syndrome. And as I said I agree not to get a onboard GPU. {I never would unless it's a single purpose HTPC for my TV}.

 

[Debeucci]

Hmm..so here's my questions.

1. It's a different IC chip for the sniper than the ripjaw. On the Asus QVL for the p8p67 pro, it has the ripjaw but not the sniper on its list. Is this an omission since the sniper is so new or is the sniper not compatible?

2. I got the Noctua NH-D14, a hunk of a cpu cooler. If I got the ripjaw, would it fit in the new 1155 mobo? I"m not sure how high the heatsinks go.

Thanks

 

[hogan773]

I havent opened my pkg but I measured and it looks like RJ are 40mm at tallest point (about 1.5 inches)

 

[Salt-City_Slasher]

I currently have the Hyper 212+ facing up and down on my 890FXA-UD5, and the RipJaw series fit right underneath the metal, and I even have the double fan in push/pull config.

I am upgrading to 2 4gb sticks, and hoping to get a second set soon after, and dump my current 2x2gb set(ripjaw).

The latency between 7, going to 9 with 1600, I don't think I will even notice, but the heat spreaders, I also don't think will make a big difference between the two.
Like, my system runs pretty cold(cm 692 adv.), and with the exhaust up top, air flows right through the memory, so I don't think the snipers will run hotter than the rip jaws!
So for 110$ I have had my eye on them, because they want 150$ for cas lat 8 of 1600, and 160$ for cas lat 7!